I had a really insightful conversation with him about breaking into product management. He patiently answered a lot of my questions around building a strong portfolio and explained how recruiters usually evaluate candidates from a product thinking perspective.What I found most valuable was how he broke down the way product managers should approach problems and think about systems and user impact. He also shared some practical insights about the Google APM interview process, which gave me a clearer idea of what to expect and how to prepare. the conversation was very helpful and gave me a better direction on how to approach my learning and portfolio for product roles. I really appreciated how open and thoughtful he was in sharing his experience.